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Matthew said he didn't want to talk to the school counselor, but I did e-mail her today to get some feedback. She said that we are on the right track, but that if things get more violent, that a visit with the parents is in order. She said that the 4th grad guidance curriculum for this month is bullying. They are going to talk about walking away and having what she called "personal power." Hopefully that will help. THanks for all of the advice!