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r8derfan.....sounds like you have the same problem I do in the "jowl" area. Mine is not bad....yet....but just wish I could nip it before I get any older and it starts getting bad (I'm 54 now). But like I said....I choose cruise instead. And for reggae....I hate trying to guess a woman's age cause if you guess wrong, it is highly insulting. With that said....she looks pretty much the same as I do age wise, so I'm going to say 53 or 54????